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The Debate: The Eduardo Punishment

Posted by Biggy and Chamo on September 2, 2009  •  Comments

With the UEFA disciplinary committee ruling today to ban Eduardo two matches, Biggy and Chamo got into an argument over the repercussions this ruling creates. Does this open up a whole can of worms where coaches can now call for intervention when referee's get a call wrong? What cases is it now acceptable to question, and what cases will see managers with fines for their outbursts? Should Eduardo, if he was just trying to protect his previously broken leg, then proceeded to get up and let the referee know that it wasn't a penalty, much like Arshavin last season, or Joe Cole after a clean tackle a few years ago that looked awful? With the integrity of the game in the balance, after the goal that wasn't given to Crystal Palace and now the rather blatant dive by Eduardo, was the ruling necessary? The debate ensues...

 

Biggy: Let me first off state that I am not a fan of diving. In any way shape or form. However, and morally I would never take this stand, this is a case of "When everyone else jump off a bridge, you go flying off with them". Tragically diving has become an epidemic, but when tackles like Fletcher's against Arshavin last weekend that are actual penalties are repeatedly ignored, then sometimes you have to embellish the contact. In such case as this one, where a play happens that looks like there could have been contact, I feel that really Eduardo was just anticipating that he would be taken out, and is protecting a body that has taken a horrific beating already. Having broken a leg then come back to play, I know about being protective of your body in that situation, and my leg break was nowhere near as horrific as Eduardo's. So I feel that the suspension is unwarranted, for more reasons then just this.

 

Chamo: I realize Eduardo had his leg mauled in such an excruciating fashion, and I give the man full credit for working hard and coming back. I also recognize his need to protect himself from similar injuries and shying away from contact, hell, Cech still wears a helmet from dirty Stephen Hunt's knee that he took, so I completely understand. What I do not agree with is his sportsmanship. In a season already tainted by poor sportsmanship (don't even get me started on the Crystal Palace "non-goal", I can't believe the actions of Bristol City's manager and players) the last thing the league needed was another incident to draw attention to itself. Acts of sportsmanship are so rare in football that when one occurs there is pandemonium and reporters make a huge deal of it.

This is wrong, sportsmanship should be expected of these players that so many look at as heroes and idols. When Arshavin hopped up after Sean Davis' tackle in the game against Portsmouth last season and tried to tell the referee that he had played the ball and it was not a penalty, that is sportsmanship. Sure, the penalty was still awarded, but Arshavin proved his class by at least attempting to tell the referee it was the wrong call. Here, instead of even trying to admit there was no contact, Eduardo stood up, smiled, and then proceeded to perform the ultimate smack in the face as he took the penalty. This is absolutely disgraceful, especially after there was blatantly no contact AND he still had close control of the ball and could have slotted it in as he passed Boruc, given that he has that much class, which some believe he does.

For his lack of sportsmanship and mistreatment for the game of football, more so than his dive, which is another story, I think he got off easy with only two games. I would have banned him at least five.

 

B: In terms of sportsmanship, I cannot disagree. It was truly poor, especially in a spot where a goal for them is not critical to going through. I would save the theatrics for a spot where it mattered. Regardless, to make an example of Eduardo means two things. First, that they are going to start suspending any and all penalty divers, regardless of situation or severity, and this will be just, or they are going to do this, and then back off which makes this ludicrous. Unfortunately, I feel that this will be the second, which is why I cannot understand the suspension. Eduardo is not a serial diver, and Arsenal is not generally a team affiliated with diving excessively. If this was Ronaldo or Drogba, I could see the merit. I also question the suspension in the fact it was in a spot that did not drastically affect the outcome of the tie, considering Arsenal already had two away goals. I just see an inconsistent standard being established here, and do not like it.

 

C: It totally changed the outcome of that tie! It was the first goal of that match and completely deflated the Hoops. If it was goal #5 aggregate I would agree, but instead it was goal #3, and the first of that particular match. Second, it shouldn't make a difference who dives, sure there are some that should have been punished before, but in order to bring this insanity to an end, it must begin somewhere. Instead of waiting for Ronaldo's next large scale flop in the box that is blatantly unwarranted, they chose to take this one, and no matter how Wenger tries to spin it, there was no contact and that is not debatable.

Does this open a whole new bag with Fifa regulated suspensions? Absolutely, but maybe the result will end in less diving overall as players will be in fear of further punishment. In order for this to happen, Fifa must also crack down on coaches, and take the initiative into their own hands. It cannot come at the call of a manager or uprising, it must be internally decided. Waiting for a person like SAF, Rafa or Wenger to call for intervention will just create a media circus. From now on, all managers should be fined, regardless of the validity of their statement, for calling for Fifa intervention. This, added with a consistent basis of rules for suspensions for blatant acting (they must be clearly defined lines) is the only way to save football's integrity.

 

B: I'm okay with the suspension under two circumstances: First, that it is applied equally across the board, not just for really bad dives. Any dive of this sort has consequences, regardless of team or situation. Second, as soon as Drogba gets suspended, you don't come running whining about the unfairness. Third, yes I'm adding one on the fly, FIFA then suspends Sir Alex after he badmouths the referee in the papers after one of his players gets suspended for diving. It will happen, and they need to take care of it. If it cuts back diving, I'm for it. If it is applied universally, I'm for it. If it means Eduardo has to be on the chopping block, which isn't the end of the world for two games, I guess it is alright. Just know next time anyone catches you diving in the box, I expect a seven game suspension with a community service punishment on the side.

 

C: The thought of me diving is a funny one, though admittedly I've been guilty of it in the past, at least I ensure contact before taking the spill. Plus, I'll be the first to let the ref know when he's got it wrong, whether its a bad tackle or an incorrect goal kick call (Unless we are playing Cal or Santa Barbara, in which case I'll dive my way across the pitch). I agree, it has to be universal, but if that is the case we have to change the laws on the field. What happens when a ref catches it?

Here's my alteration to the current rule. Right now its a yellow for a dive if caught by the ref. I think, if caught diving for a penalty it should be a straight red. This becomes a universal dismissal that results in a two match ban, making it the same punishment they would have received if otherwise caught through Fifa.

But remember, it will ALWAYS be wrong if Drogba gets banned.

 

B: I'd much rather stick with the yellow and have it reviewed post game. In the heat of the moment, a ref could hand out a rash card for what looks like diving when that may not be the case. Reds in games change games much more then a post game suspension, and being wrong is a lot harder on video then on a call during a game. I don't like diving, but having played up top and in the midfield know that there are times where it looks like you are blatantly diving when you are truly not, and a ref might miss the little things that lead to this sort of situation. Video review of any possible dives is the way to go in my opinion. I don't mind the ban, but getting a dive call wrong in game is too harmful to have all the time.

 

C: However, what happens when a referee misses something as big as what Eduardo did? The game is already finished, and the outcome already determined. Does the result just become the outcome, and the player takes the fall after? I guess it is somewhat logical, but its hardly compensation for a result, thus the change may eliminate some diving, but I'm not sure how effective it will be entirely with not much at stake other than only the possibility of a further suspension.

 

B: It is not perfect, but I think that I would prefer to give up a pk on a dive then lose a player from a non dive. Human error will always be part of the game, and I think I would rather err on the side of not giving refs another reason to abrasively hand out red cards. It is not perfect, but no solution is at this point. I disagree on the two game suspension, certainly if Drogba got caught diving in the Champions League quarters, a two game suspension would be devastating. I think knowing that suspensions will be handed out after review is deterrent enough to keep most players with both feet firmly planted on the pitch.

 

C: But Drogba is already exempt from the rule. I decided that has to be a clause in the contract.

 

B: And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why you can't trust Chelsea fans with anything important.

 

What do you think about the Eduardo ruling? Think it was necessary and Eduardo just got caught in the crossfire or do you think it is a ridiculous ban that has only negative implications of Fifa invlovement? Let us know:

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